Ikari mice and Neckbands on their way
Almost every day since we set the SteelSeries Ikari mice and the SteelSeries Neckband up for pre-order, a lot of people have been asking when they could expect the product to be on their desk.
Last Friday, after having received a load of products at our warehouse, we could begin sending out products to everyone who had pre-ordered in our shop. So guys; stop asking and start looking for the postman if you haven’t already received your package.
In the not-so-distant future we will put up a bunch of Ikari Laser profiles on SteelSeries.com, which you can download and upload to your mouse if you want to feel exactly how the mouse of a top notch gamer feels like. By the way, if you want to learn more about the Ikari mice you should really go check out the product pages - just follow the links below.
SteelSeries Ikari Laser
SteelSeries Ikari Optical
SteelSeries Siberia Neckband
/Crash_
November 26th, 2007 16:29
i read the specifications of the ikari, and im a little disappointed in the posted malfunction speed, i easily hit the malfunction speed of the G5, that means according the reported malfunction speed on the steel series site it is actually less than the g5, that means i will hit the malfunction speed of the ikari. Is this an issue for an ultra low sensitivity play like myself? Because i love the shape of the ikari, it has a place for my pinky and ring finger to rest unlike nearly every other mouse on the market, but i may have to stick to my MX500 if the ikari can’t take it.
so, is this is an issue for me?
November 26th, 2007 16:32
This must mean that the NDA is over, so is there any reviews out or did they get the mouse shipped at the same day as everyone else?
November 26th, 2007 17:04
#4 Well I should get mine today or tomorrow together with my SX so I hope I am not disappointed :) but would be nice to read a review to pass time^^
November 26th, 2007 17:07
Crash_ can you do the same thing to the optical ones?(professional players profiles)
November 26th, 2007 17:46
#1
I’m sorry but where do you find the malfunction speed? I’ve probably developed blindness after looking at those product pages so much.
#2
Actually we have sold so many mice that I believe not one single reviewer has the mouse in their hands yet. We have to prioritze people who have already ordered it :-)
#3
No you cannot upload a profile to the Ikari Optical. The optical is less expensive because of the restricted CPI adjustments (increments of 400), lack of LCD display and lack of macro functionality. Therefore we couldn’t see any sense in doing profiles for the Ikari Optical as it doesn’t have that many different settings to choose from :-)
November 26th, 2007 17:57
I was wondering when we could expect to see the ikari available through third party stores such as Newegg or Tigerdirect?
November 26th, 2007 18:13
awesome,thanks, Crash_…I just don’t see the point of Laser,since the optical is developed for FPS gamers…I wouldn’t mind paying like 20 more bucks,but just don’t see the point,anyways…thanks
November 26th, 2007 18:20
HAHAHAHAHA. I received my mouse today “optical and love the way it feels” It actually hugs your hand. And moist hands are really not a big problem. Love the mouse. GJ SS
November 26th, 2007 18:33
#7
Well Gill, the thing is we have actually developed a laser mouse which should be more than perfect for FPS games. So you can’t say no to laser because you don’t expect it to perform as good as the optical :-)
November 26th, 2007 20:55
Crash_…as I spoke, I found that the lift-off distance is way too high…measured as 5mm above the surface…I use Qck Heavy…:(
November 26th, 2007 21:01
actually…it’s like 1cm…
November 26th, 2007 21:24
can the lift-off distance be reduced off somehow by like firmware update?
November 26th, 2007 21:34
Yeah I noticed that too. My im3.0 and DA didnt do that. but other then that i love it .And #12 i think theyll tweak the mouse a little with firmware in the future.
November 26th, 2007 22:02
#13…yeah…waiting for Crash_ for reply and update of firmware…many other people have experinced the same thing and low sens users don’t like it…better put up an update fast(reduce to below 2mm is what I suggest)
November 26th, 2007 22:11
Also,I just tested the optical Ikari on paint,it shows it has prediction…Crash_ plz confirm and make an update
November 26th, 2007 22:40
Crash_
- Inches per second: 40
this is on the specification page, i believe the g5’s is 50 or something inches. So, is this a miss type, or….. what…… because i don’t see why steel series would release a mouse that doesn’t work for low sensitivity gamers.
November 26th, 2007 23:38
The optical’s specs, especially considering the fact that as Gill mention that the tracking shows prediction, indicates that the optical uses the same sensor as MX518/Dback. Which means that it won’t skip easily, unlike the G5, which does.
I haven’t tried a Gen. 2, but the original G5 skipped easily.
That said, the days of the no-skip laser might be upon us. The Logitech G9 does not skip at 28 cm per 360 for me. The only problem with that mouse is the weight and fit, just a bit too small for my big hands, not bad, but not ideal.
I’m thinking that S/S used that same 3200 DPI sensor in the Ikari Laser at the G9, judging by the similarities in stats (40,000 samples a sec. aside). My thinking is that S/S put that great sensor into a smaller package, and that’s why I bought one.
November 27th, 2007 00:39
After playing with my Ikari Optical and being a low sens. player. IS THIS THE MOUSE FOR ME ?
Dont get me wrong i love the feel and shape of this mouse but playing at 1.0 in CS lifting the mouse a TINY bit off the surface kills any chance you have with an awp shot. SO IS THERE ANY FIRMWARE THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM OR WAS THIS THE MOUSE THAT LOOKS DIFFERENT BUT FUNCTIONS LESS THEN THE IM 3.0 THAT I HAVE. I DONT WANT TO SAY THAT THIS MOUSE IS BAD. BUT KNOW I DO REALLY THINK I BOUGHT THIS MOUSE TRULY ON HYPEEEEEE. BUT I WILL GIVE IT A 2 WEEK CHANCE IN MY HAND TO IMPRESS ME.
November 27th, 2007 00:56
#17…not same sensor…SS developed its own…but yea, Crash_ or some other guys from Steelseries better have this lift-off distance problem fixed or others won’t buy Ikari anymore just from the feedbacks of preorder-ers
November 27th, 2007 01:03
Lift distance: 0,07 inch, I wonder why Ikari Laser has the lift-off distance half of the Ikari Optical(0.07inch=1.78mm)…and optical is designed for low sens users while laser is designed for high sens users…firmware update needs to be done soon
November 27th, 2007 01:18
Oh god, I love this mouse so much but theres a real issue with lifting. I have to lift it up pretty high for it to not move me ingame which sucks cause I play with 2.4 sens.
November 27th, 2007 01:19
Just to be clear, the distance that I have to lift my mouse is so high I’m back to using my IME 3.0 until this is resolved with Firmware.. : (
Great job on everything else, it has a nice glide and fits my hand wonderfully.
November 27th, 2007 02:42
etna…same here,im switching back to my MIE3.0 for now ’til the problem is solved
November 27th, 2007 03:53
could anyone of you ms3.0 owners compare the ikari and the ms3.0 to see if there is prediction on the optical? on the steelseries homepage it only says that the laser version is predictabel free.
November 27th, 2007 05:54
#24,after testing,there’s prediction with the optical version…but wait for Crash_ to confirm
November 27th, 2007 06:10
I noticed the exact same thing with having to lift the Ikari unreasonably high so it wouldnt move me in the game. Otherwise, WOW this mouse fits like a glove and has an amazing glide. Also, just for curiosity reasons, according to the pictures on the SS website, the glides on the Ikari Optical are white, but mine are black. Are all of yours black as well fellas? It doesn’t matter, but I was just curious.
****THE LIFT DISTANCE NEEDS TO BE FIXED ASAP PLEASE****
November 27th, 2007 06:56
Hey i’ve got an issue with mine, but after some thought and observation i think the problem isn’t with the sensor or anything itsself. After moving my mouse for like 3 sec or more it freezes up and stops responding, but then works again. The speed at which i move the mouse doesn’t matter, just that i move it. Also, when the freeze is happening i can’t change the cpi. The fact that how violently i fling my mouse has no impact on the freezing and how the sensor still performs well make me think theres no relation between the problem and a faulty mouse cord, a faulty sensor, or my computer, which are usually to blame for mouse freezing. So what i would like to know is if this can be fixed through firmware or something, or if I’ll absolutely have to RMA it.
Other than that, gj, love the mouse
November 27th, 2007 08:25
@ #26 nsz
mine are also black (Ikari Laser)
November 27th, 2007 10:32
Please fix the liftoff its way too high!
November 27th, 2007 11:07
Can i just ask, why did steel think that amount of lift off was acceptable?
November 27th, 2007 11:13
Think my Ikari laser is Dead on Arrival :( will try it on an Win XP machine shortly but until then I am not in love with my new mice :(
November 27th, 2007 13:02
RMA made :( Pretty annyoing having to use money on a problem that is not my fault :(
November 27th, 2007 18:19
Crash_ I think you might have already been doing something abt the firmware update..but plz notify us…others and I are really disappointed on it and if the firmware doesn’t put out any time soon,I think I may just do RMA(not to threaten,just a fact)…and might or might not get a Laser one…
November 27th, 2007 18:27
I’m simply going to return mine for a refund if it cant/wont be sorted out.
i dont mind waiting a small amount of time though if you are actually going to get it sorted
November 27th, 2007 19:40
Just got the laser. No lift-off issues, only got to play around with a little bit but I made sure of the lift-off. Only played about 15 minutes in q3 so far, then had to come back to work. No tracking issues so far, software is very easy to set up, although when switching dpi not under profile, only default showed. Will play around with freemove more when I get home, but without it, the mouse just seemed smooth, responsive, and predictable.
So far, it seems that this mouse is everything I could have ever wanted. I’m very happy, the shape is excellent (maybe better than 3.0 :O ), buttons are very sensitive and mousewheel feel is ideal, weight is extremely light, glide is as smooth as it’s gets. Crossing my fingers and hoping for no hiccups. Otherwise, kudos goes out to Steelseries.
November 28th, 2007 08:36
Who’s Ikari Laser runs with the claimed 1000Hz?
Mine runs “only” with 500Hz, not a big issue but interessinting
PS: great mouse :)
PPS: Software seems to have some bugs. After playing around with some settings I could not save them to the mouse. Reboot solved the problem.
November 28th, 2007 09:16
#36, I noticed the polling too. I played around in paint with freemove, didn’t notice a difference. A reboot might be in order.
November 28th, 2007 10:44
The laser seems to have an easier malfunction speed than the optical. worth noting if you’re a low sens cs player.
November 28th, 2007 13:49
Firmware upgrade ASAP T_T…I don’t want to throw my Ikari Optical away…
November 28th, 2007 18:07
Crash_?any1 from Steel,speak out to let us know if you are doing the firmware upgrade or what…don’t let us wait,if you aren’t,we may just RMA
November 28th, 2007 23:12
i guess i got lucky because i just switched from an MX518 (6/11 windows 1.6 sens counter strike) and theres no difference in liftoff.
i freaken love the deep indentation for your finger on the right. the mx518 had me gripping with my pinky while the 3.0 lets me lay my finger lower, but the grip isn’t really enough for low sensitivity.
prediction is on though and it didn’t come with any Teflon feet (stock = teflon maybe?). 1000hz is working though.
November 28th, 2007 23:38
#41…you may have gotten the Laser one,the Laser doesn’t have a liftoff problem…and prediction is on with optical…Teflon feet…Steel said it’s no need,since the stock is teflon and they would have replacement for the feet later…but liftoff has to be fixed
November 29th, 2007 00:53
#42 nope mines optical. no extra buttons, no macro software and the glossy finish.
November 29th, 2007 03:36
Sigh…SteelSeries,this is really disappointing…no one has come out and say something about the liftoff issue…are you gonna make a firmware upgrade?
November 29th, 2007 05:02
#44 honestly i’d be angry if my mouse had the same problem, but you’re acting incredibly immature by saying it’s “really disappointing” that there is no fix for an issue that was found only days ago and threatening to RMA. first off theres no answer yet so you can only speculate that they can update firmware….and secondly its only been DAYS. also, the only company that I know that has rolling firmware fixes (not counting logitech’s one firmware update) is razer, and even then it takes them months to get everything fixed.
threatening and complaining every few hours will get you nowhere. either throw them an email and wait it out for a while and THEN complain if theres no fix or just return your mouse already.
November 29th, 2007 05:36
#45…I did email them…there’s nothing back…I mean…not like threatening,just saying at least let us know if you are gonna have it fixed or what?
November 29th, 2007 06:01
My Ikari optical runs at 1000Hz by default. I would actually prefer it to run at 500 and I would prefer lower liftoff so I have ordered the laser version.
November 29th, 2007 14:28
#47,larger is better..and I don’t want to buy another one just for liftoff issue…plus laser isn’t for low sens players after testing of Lovenub
November 29th, 2007 15:18
the shape is perfect…and I love the high and low indicators on the side…Optical Ikari is perfect when liftoff gets fixed
November 29th, 2007 17:35
Ikari optical ftw, btw gill, maybe we should scrim sometime ^_^
November 29th, 2007 20:00
Shame the optical doesn’t actually support 1600 DPI.
It just doubles the sens through software resulting in very bad negative acceleration.
well thats what it does on mine anyway.
November 29th, 2007 21:17
The lift-off distance of Ikari is causing me a hugh problem in CS 1.6. I’m really low sens (40+/360) player and I always need to do some lifting in game, for even a 90 degree turn. The lift-off distance makes me move weird in game…Whenever I want to center my mice on the mousepad the crosshair has already gone to somewhere else on the screen :/ I have tried using Ikari on Qck Heavy and SX. The lift-off distance causes more problems on SX than Qck Heavy. I hope SteelSeries will make a firmware upgrade soon.
November 29th, 2007 21:24
Except the lift-off distance issue the mouse is perfect. Tracking and the shape of mouse are simply the best (the optical version).
November 29th, 2007 21:53
Well.. i just bought the mouse, in the mind that the isue was with the lift-off distance.
But it is the same as the IME 3.0 which i moved from. The lift-off doesn’t need to be solved, you just need to lift you mouse a lil bit higher, you just have to get used to it. Its not that hard, just game with it, in mind that you have to jsut lift it a lil bit higher.
All in all this is the perfect mouse i have tried, and i will keep it in a long time.
Its the perfect mouse for FPS(1.6 or CsS)
and best of all, i can’t get the sensor to skip, even if i set it at 1/11 in windows it is impossible for me..
November 30th, 2007 23:22
mhhh, to me it is obvious that the “Ikari Optical” will have the same problem as the “Razer Deathadder” had when it was released - the lift-off distance! no one who plays with a low or a very low sens (most of the so called “pro-gamers” do) could use it… then Razer fixed the lift-off issue by releasing a new firmware and so many “top” players (others too) changed to the “Razer Deathadder”. so here is my question: why not releasing a firmware that reduceses the lift-off distance, anyone who thinks he needs this firmware can install it - every other player that does not need it will not install this new firmware - and most important everybody will be happy!
December 2nd, 2007 04:03
Crash_
Do you know if the Siberia Neckbands will be available in black sometime? If so do you know the estimated date they will be available?
December 2nd, 2007 04:44
Lift off distance. It seems all of you forgot the Ikari mice were.. let’s say invented by the help of pro gamers. Do you really think 3.5 mm, 5 mm or whatever are that much? I use a MX518 and I don’t know the lift off distance of it. I just play with it. That’s the reason why I bought it, for gaming.
Greetz from Austria :)
December 2nd, 2007 11:33
3.5mm - 5mm is way too much.
mx-518 is 2mm
December 6th, 2007 20:03
#56
I would sure love to see the Neckband in black, but right now we’re not planning on doing one.
December 10th, 2007 22:11
I just got a Ikari Laser, I’m using it on the SX pad and I suppose im a high sense gamer 3200dpi 3.0 in game, The shape defineately takes getting used to if your coming from something like a G5 and have big hands but im getting there and the comfort is improving.
I am no expert but I can confirm the lift off distance on the SX pad is VERY low especially compared to my old G5, I can just about slip my fingernail underneath before it stops tracking.
Only thing I found was that when I unboxed mine the black feet were pretty scratched, fairly deep vertical lines, anyone else experiencing this? I immeidiately ordered some new IKARI glides, I mean the glide feels slicker than my G5 on brand new SS glides but I think it will be much better on non scratched glides. Nothing worth RMA’ing over thats for sure. :)
December 13th, 2007 15:15
#60…I’d gotten the Optical(RMA’d for refund) and got the Laser..they are the same on the bottom…so I assume that all products are like that…imo they are scratched because it is not flat when it’s 1st produced…a machine has to scratch all the glides so they will all be flat…it’s all good…with those glides, u won’t wear out any time soon,they are HUGE…I got 4 pairs of glides though…just for backup
April 19th, 2008 06:35
#27
I have a related issue, also using the optical.
I multibox wow and the cpu load is often close to 100%. Recently the Ikari has stopped responsing for shorter periods of time. At fitst I thought the optics were dusty, and spending a few secs cleaning would solve the problem, but yesterday I could not get the mouse back until I rebooted.
When its “dead” the cpi cannot be changed, though the light indicator is still on.
I have no clue for why this is happening.
May 8th, 2008 14:29
Hello!
I’ve just got a new Ikari Laser and have a problem with it:
The Button 4 (”Internet Back” button”) always toggles the CPI function too. I can’t get it to just act as “back” button!?
And the CPI button always acts as “back” button too. So basically the CPI and Button 4 both do the same. And they both toggle two functions (set CPI and “back”).
What’s up with this?
Also the software lets me choose between “Button 3″ and “Button 4″ functions. But in the manual I see that these should be shown as “Internet Forward” and “Internet Back” entries!?
May 15th, 2008 21:44
Ok, got a new Ikari Laser from my dealer. Works fine now.
@SteelSeries: Why do you have an support email (support@steelseries.com) if nobody answers? Lame!